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  • Legal CRM veterans Michael D. White and David Blumentals contribute, along with special guests, thoughtful and informative insight surrounding CRM and law firms. The authors offer ongoing trend analysis as well as Best Practices for firms who are either currently running CRM or considering a CRM implementation project. Content will be primarily focused on, but not strictly limited to, Microsoft CRM.
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November 22, 2008

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guess who

You were right - definitely a rant. And unfortunately your rant comes off as a Client Profiles sales pitch. I, too, have been in the legal industry for many years and have seen the good and bad sides of all the vendors involved, and I'm very familiar with the Interaction shelfware problem. Keep trying with CRM4Legal but save the victory dance (and rants) until you've actually delivered. I'd love to see a full-on sucessful MS CRM implmentation in large law, but haven't yet. Can you point to one?

Geoffrey Hyatt

Michael, that is a good summary, and most people can probably understand why you sound a little agitated. You are correct that too many firms choose a product by watching demos, instead of starting with a self-developed list of business requirements. For example, even "Integration with Outlook" is not a business requirement. What does the firm actually want to accomplish? Even "a clean set of contacts" is not a business requirement. "Sending professional mailings to targeted lists" is a business requirement. "Finding our best relationships to a target company" is a business requirement. "Getting lawyers to use the system" is not. If firms are very thoughtful about what they actually want to achieve, they will do a better job achieving it successfully.

And with which product? That depends on the requirements. MSCRM is best for some, IA for some others, Hubbard for others. There isn't one right answer for every firm.
And as to which comes first, the CRM-chicken or the ERM-egg, that also depends on the firm's priorities, requirements, strategy and resources. Each firm is different, and so are their needs. As a vendor, we all want to come first, but the customers need to chart their course.

Full disclosure: I'm the CEO of Contact Networks, and we have an integration with Client Profiles that is being implemented at a mutual customer (a top 10 global law firm). We very much like the Client Profiles product, and the very candid people behind it. Likewise, we also integrate with InterAction and Hubbard. We don't pick who we do and don't work with, we do what our customers tell us to do.

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